Recap of Camp Mustache SE

Working as a team to climb any wall in our way.

Each edition of Camp Mustache gets better than the one before. Camp Mustache SE in Gainesville, Florida (January 13 –January 16, 2017) is the fourth in a series of camps, this being the first outside the Seattle area. I have had the honor of attending and speaking at all but the first Camp Mustache.

Stephen Baughier organized the event with guidance, advice and a helping hand from Emma Pattee. Emma’s experience organizing Camp Mustache in Seattle allowed Stephen to move up the learning curve faster. The added experience and hard work made Camp Mustache SE awesome on every level. For the record, I have already accepted the offer to attend Camp Mustache IV in Seattle over Memorial Day weekend in the states this May. There is no doubt the gathering will be an incredible place to learn and meet like-minded people in the FIRE community.

Several notable names were in attendance. Pete, the guest of honor, was, of course, there. J.D. Roth (Money Boss), Joshua Sheats (Radical Personal Finance), Brad Barrett (Travel Miles 101), Gwen (Fiery Millennials), Jonathon Mendonsa (Chosefi), Zeona McIntyre (ZeonaMcIntyre.com), Brooks Nelson (Gainesville Cohousing) and more were available for questions. (Hope I did not miss anyone.) 

Presentations

Six presentations provided more than enough information to build and maintain wealth. The first session, J.D. Roth outlined the steps towards building a personal mission statement so you can design the life of your dreams. Financial independence (FI) does not automatically make you happy or solve problems. The advice shared by J.D. provided us the building blocks to create the life we wanted where FI is only a milestone along the path toward your goals. (Update: J.D.’s presentation can be heard here.)

Brooks Nelson showed us a cohousing community currently being built in Gainesville. The development will focus on community. The community is designed to foster interaction with neighbors and outdoor activities. Autos and other vehicles play a role outside the development only and biking and walking are encouraged in the development. Cohousing started in Europe and projects are now starting all over the United States. If you want to see what society looks like in the future, look no further. Cohousing developments focused on personal tastes will continue to expand, consuming a greater and greater segment of the population.

Joshua Sheats recorded a podcast live for us Saturday night: Why Bother to Wait Until You’re FI to Live Like You’re FI. Joshua taught us how to live the good life no matter where we are on our journey to financial independence. Hear the podcast on Radical Personal Finance.

I kicked things off Sunday morning with a presentation on Organizing Your Life to Maximize Net Worth and Minimize Taxes. You can review my presentation here. The session was recorded and may be available to the general public at a future date.

Investment properties play a large role in building and maintaining wealth. Zeona McIntyre, with ample help from Emma Pattee, illustrated how we can increase cash flow, accelerating our personal wealth building process. Zeona showed us how she uses Airbnb to supercharge her real estate investments.

Recreation

Before you get the wrong idea, it wasn’t work and no play. Our group enjoyed a team building course where we learned to work together to solve difficult problems. A massive amount of laughing was involved.

Sunday afternoon several attendees spent time at the archery range. Beginners to experts worked together improving their marksmanship.

Basketball, kickball and several hikes filled the remainder of our days. It was all about clean living.




Socializing

Everyone came away with something powerful to improve their lives and that of those around them. People talked well into the evening. One night there was a fire pit; every night contained mild intoxicants. Sharing of stories, telling jokes and asking advice only ended when people were exhausted from the long day. The next morning it started all over again bright and early. You can’t keep a good group down.

The hardest part was Monday when we socialized and said our good-byes. In four short days we all felt like family. Even I met a friend of Pete’s trying to communicate a message to me. I understood. Together we are stronger; together we will transform the world into a better place. Speed bumps along the way are just that: speed bumps. I have a new client who will fly in from Maine to get his taxes done. It blows my mind. There is no doubt he has other issues to discuss. It will be an interesting conversation. We will both learn a lot.

Giving Back

Every Camp I am inundated with tax and financial questions. This Camp I asked Stephen if I could offer one-hour consultations for $100 each, all proceeds going to charity. It is my honor to inform you we raised $1,050! Once all the money is collected the funds will be sent to the Special Olympics. In the past I supported the Wisconsin Special Olympics. The only thing I can’t do is attend their events. I cannot control my emotions. So I do what I can to provide resources to those who can. One Camp attendee has a family member with Down’s. It was a special moment where we made a difference and it affected us personally. That was when I knew the journey was worth it.

An interesting side note on the consultations. I worked on the consults till late at night. One night I gave a tough talk in a consultation on prenuptial agreements. I did not think much of it at the time, but the next morning I discovered there was an excited debate on the subject. I was tired so I went to bed and missed the whole thing. I was provided the final result. The group agreed at the end my advice was the only way to go. I now have a post in the queue in need of writing titled: Avoiding the Gold-diggers. It should be good. And required reading for anyone with a positive net worth or looking to reach FI at any point in their life.

Community

Connections are made fast at Camp Mustache. This is easily the least judgmental group I have ever been a part of. We shared contact information, hugged and cried. If the world were made up of people like this there would be no social issues to worry us.

I know I will meet many of these people again. I look forward to it. Camp is only over by a few days and I already long for the company of my new friends. Anywhere in the U.S. I want to travel I have a couch to bed down on and a friend to talk with. The same applies to many parts of the world.

Later this winter Gwen is skiing in Wisconsin and will visit Mrs. Accountant and me on the way through. She may be surprised at how I live. And my buddy from Maine will certainly be offer a comfortable bed while in town. It will be the first time I put a client up for the night.

A strange, and incredible, world we live in.

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Keith Schroeder

15 Comments

  1. TJ on January 18, 2017 at 8:02 pm

    Wow, I must have slept through the whole prenup conversation. Will definitely check out that post when it goes up. Thanks for sharing your wealth of tax knowledge with all of us.

    • Keith Schroeder on January 18, 2017 at 8:14 pm

      Don’t worry, TJ. I started the whole darn thing and never knew it. At least they finally agreed I was right while I blissfully slept. Remember, what you say in a consultation is confidential; what I say is not. Good to see you home safe, TJ. I leave Gainesville tomorrow. Looking forward to home and the office. I miss those guys.

    • Ruby E on January 19, 2017 at 8:48 pm

      Missed the whole prenup conversation too – I must have snuck out early to call home and fell asleep after. It was great talking to you and meeting you Keith!

      • Keith Schroeder on January 19, 2017 at 11:10 pm

        I really need to get that prenup post written.

  2. Gwen on January 18, 2017 at 8:26 pm

    As always, I’m so glad we got to spend the weekend hanging out! Thank god there was no frickin mountain to climb this time! I had to find other ways to abuse my legs (aka HIIT runs with Brad. Terrible idea for both of us). I didn’t win the lottery to go back to CM Seattle, so I will being seeing you when I hit the slopes! I know what to expect at your place – a shallow pond full of bones in the backyard. No big deal.

    For what it’s worth, I’m with you on the prenup thing too.

    • Keith Schroeder on January 18, 2017 at 8:38 pm

      The lottery is still out on CM Seattle. I was allowed in early because I am speaking again. My guess is later next week the lottery winners will be contacted. Fingers crossed you make the cut. How am I going to get to the top of Mt. Si without my climbing partner?

      Some people have skeletons in their closet, mine are in the pond. I was always told the FIRE community is a bit different.

      • Gwen on January 18, 2017 at 8:41 pm

        I got the news I didn’t get in on the way to the airport Monday right after leaving 🙁 However, I wouldn’t be attending now that I’m going to both FinCon and the Chautauqua. I just don’t have enough vacation time for everything!!

        • Keith Schroeder on January 18, 2017 at 8:45 pm

          Sorry. I might attend FinCon. Still deciding. If so, I’ll let you know.

    • Brad Barrett on January 21, 2017 at 4:14 pm

      Loved those sprints Gwen!! You’re really fast — very impressive for sure.
      The last one may have been pushing it though 🙂

  3. J.D. Roth on January 19, 2017 at 9:23 am

    Just wanted to note that Joshua’s presentation is already available on his podcast (https://radicalpersonalfinance.com/rpf-camp-mustache/). My recording is up too, although I haven’t shared it publicly yet. If you want to kill this comment and link to it from your post, you can. Else, anyone reading the comments can find it at http://moneyboss.com/files/Camp%20Mustache%20SE%202017.mp3

    • Keith Schroeder on January 19, 2017 at 5:54 pm

      I’ll keep it J.D. and add it to the post.

  4. Recap: Camp Mustache SE 2017 – Fiery Millennials on January 19, 2017 at 10:03 am

    […] In addition to his presentation, I donated $100 to charity for an hour of his time in a private session. This is far lower than his normal hourly fee, so I jumped at the chance to schedule a chat despite participating in the Uber Frugal Challenge month. As a tax professional, former landlord, and current blogger, I had way more questions to ask him than our hour permitted. We did our best to cram it all in but with two people who like to talk as much as both of us do, we didn’t quite manage it. Fortunately, he lives “close” to me so I can always go visit when he’s not in the depths of tax season. Keith, since I know you’ll read this, thanks for all the help and guidance you’ve given me. I appreciate it more than you’ll ever know! You can read his thoughts on the weekend here: https://wealthyaccountant.com/2017/01/18/recap-of-camp-mustache-se/ […]

  5. Joel on January 19, 2017 at 4:25 pm

    It was so nice meeting you and Mrs. Accountant this weekend. I learned so much from your presentation. Let us know when the recording is available!

  6. Mustard Seed Money on January 20, 2017 at 9:54 am

    This sounds like a fantastic time. I wish I could have gotten off work to fly down there especially since you all were in the SE since I’m on the east coast. Hopefully if/when it swings back around I can join in the on the fun.

  7. Julia Becker on January 20, 2017 at 3:24 pm

    That was a fantastic recap, Keith! Thank you. I will share with my friends to give them a hint of what an awesome event Camp Mustache is.

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